Myne’s post inspired this conversation earlier today. I thought it was funny, enlightening and share-able
Ginger: Can women propose to a man from Myne's blog post
Prof: yup
Ginger: my answer to that...
Prof: I read it
Ginger: Ha, Myne. no be me and you oo. If na Oyibo i fit. But African man MBA.
Fa fa fa foul!! I totally see where Deronks above is coming from and can envisage it.
Let the man do the chasing please. let it be all his idea. In this I will play the culture card. It is not our culture.
Same reason why i could never approve of getting pregnant before marriage.
Till our marriage is signed sealed and delivered I aint brooding no baby.
I don't want to be remembered for pushing a man.
I can hint, and I can give ultimatums like ‘guy if you dont get your act together
before this year runs out, I am walking away’ ala Craig David...
Prof: Hmmmm, Interesting answer
But I don't totally agree.
Every r/ship is peculiar and it depends
Ginger: Well, me no want peculiar
Prof: laughssssssssss
It all depends
Ginger: which nonsense peculiar
most times, the woman already sees a marriage before the man
and they scheme and they nag and thay ask all the
'where is this relationship going 'questions
Prof: :)
Ginger: what is the manly man waiting for?
Prof: It still depends on the two people involved
Ginger: ka agbanye ya ring na aka? (for her to put a ring on it?)
ha
Prof: U are straying from the topic
Ginger: I'm not
I am rehashing a typical relationship
Prof: It's possible that Man A is the type a certain Woman X will never propose to
but could propose to Man B cos of the kind of person she thinks he is
E.g. How she thinks he'd handle it
Ginger: and why should a woman still propose after all the green light she has shown?
Prof: What's a proposal anyway? "Will U marry me (on bended knees)?
Technically, yes
Ginger: She can stand straight don’t worry
Prof: But a babe can propose in so many other ways
Ginger: ok. agreed different relationships/diff peculiarities
Prof: It all depends
Ginger: etc
you should know your partner etc etc
There are few men shaa that are receptive to it
I have just told you that I will find it easier to do it to an Oyibo man
Prof: See ur life?
Ginger: even to toast an Oyibo man
Prof: Na colonial mentality go kill you :P
Ginger: yeaah. like it is acceptable there.
in Nigeria...it isnt
even if i come onto a Nigerian guy who understands, what of his friends, his family
Prof: That means he'd go spreading the news?
Ginger: its not the type of giggly story you are happy to share...oh Ginger proposed to me yesterday
Prof: Then he is not a man
Ginger: Dont we spread the news when a man proposes?
Prof: Laughsss
U are women
That's d difference
Ginger: in the spirit of equality and fairness should we hide it when a woman proposes?
Prof: Laughssssssssssssssssssssss!!!
Ginger, leave me o
Equality & fairness!
LOL!
Ginger: going to copy and paste this bit of the convo on Myne's page
ewu gambia
Prof: LOL!
Ginger: but really na
Prof: Approved
Go ahead
Zuworess
Ginger: So you have seen all those engagement/wedding websites, haven’t you?
Prof: Post everything not just the part where u seemed to be winning o
Ginger: When the question 'how did he propose?’ is asked
Prof: LOL
Ginger: should we hide the fact that ‘she’ proposed?
Prof: Forget the website and the whole Hollywood entrenched thinking
Ginger: ahh ahh
Prof: If dem no come get website nko?
Must they have a website?
Ginger: which one is hollywood entrenched?
Why shouldn’t they if they had always wanted to?
Prof: Hollywood entrenched=pop culture= website/Man proposes kneeling down etc etc. Did U not see the couple in Sex & The City? Each marriage/relationship is unique & two people involved should make their own rules as long as it fits them. They don't have to play for people to cheer. Just saying, not that I personally would want a woman to propose to me (and that is the crux of the matter)
Ginger: I agree, proposals don’t have to be something elaborate.
Prof: Just saying there's nothing wrong or UnAfrican abt it
Ginger: ok.
Ginger: In fact here goes. Prof will you marry me?
Prof: No, it doesn't have to
On chat?
LOL
Ginger: lol
Prof: Call me and say it
:P
Ginger: all na proposal na
Prof: LOL!
Post ds on your blog o
Ginger: if a man proposes to me online it is binding
Prof: Really?
Ginger: yes ke
even though i will yab him for the rest of our marital life
Prof: I'd have to chew that. Never thot of it b4. U might be right
Ginger: okay that’s a no then.
No probs
Prof: Afterall, we spend 70% of our lives these days online
Hey
wait
I was talking about eschewing the online mode not d proposal itself
YES!!!
The answer is yes
Ginger: Sorry
I've moved on
Prof: Laughssssssssssssssssssss
Zuwo!
Ginger: Ewu meeee
Prof: U just smashed my heart!
Ginger: akuko
Prof: Nonsense
Ginger: see, if you were in the spirit
you would have said yes before all that pre-meditation
Prof: Oh, I am not a spirit
:)
We should run the application again
Ginger: dream on, dream away…
Ginger: so why dont you want a woman to propose? And I have got other questions..
Prof: LOL!
Ginger: does he still get her a ring?
Ginger: who asks for whose hand in marriage with the parents? Who pays dowry?
Prof: Now, proposing in d 1st place by d woman was to find out sth
‘If d guy is ready to be with her for life’
Just like it serves that same purpose when the guy pops the question
In this case
Our man is a bit "unconventional" or shy or sth
Or maybe just waiting to be proposed to
U know d way babes wait
:P
So, the girl pops the question
Prof: He says yes
Ginger: okay.
Prof: and then he wakes up
Ginger: lol
Prof: or he smiles and says, "I thot U were never gonna ask"
Ginger: lolsssssssssssssss
Prof: "What too U so long, baby?"
Ginger: I'll just clonk his head
Prof: Laughsssssssssssssss
Ginger: anu mpam
Prof: LOL!!!
Ginger: he is waiting for all my eggs to die ee kwa?
Prof: LOL
So he now says, Ok we need to call your parents/go to d village
Thanks for bringing me to this point
for understanding me
in my own unique way
:P
Ginger: lol
speechless
Prof: and then everything continues as before
Ginger: I haven’t forgotten the first question though
Prof: Ring gets bought,
everything gets done the "conventional" way
Ginger: thanks for the enlightenment Prof
Ginger: Interestingly some real life proposals i read, played out just like you explained
Prof: A proposal= a question
Really?
LOL!
Ginger: Yep
Various stories of women proposing
and they said their men still proposed in their own time in the end
Prof: U see?
Ginger: So maybe women proposing is just not taken as seriously by the man
maybe it hastens things a tad bit..but everything is still at his own timing
Prof: I’m back. Checked out the link. got engrossed. Wow!
Ginger: I know. Yay to the ladies.
Prof: I do agree with your last statement. It's sad isn't it, the way men get to dictate the pace of everything?